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 Post subject: WHAT IS THE QUIETEST .22 LR SUPPRESSOR?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:02 pm 
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Ok I'm getting the itch for a new .22 can, so let me know what your opinions are. I was looking at the Liberty Shoofly, but there is know way I will buy a sealed .22 lr unit.

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Shoofly is very quiet, I would say the SWR Spectre and AAC Element are about the best of em. Also take a look at the Thompson Machine Zephyr XL.

I'm a little biased towards the Spectre, it's built like a tank and has great suppression.


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There is no "quietest" .22 silencer --- it depends on your host, ammo, etc.

What are you intending to put it on?

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It willbe going on a Walther p22 and a 10/22. I will be shooting bulk pack ammo.

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gunguy wrote:
It willbe going on a Walther p22 and a 10/22. I will be shooting bulk pack ammo.


the element was made with the p-22 in mind. my p-22 with a 3.5 barrel and the element sounds like an airgun. havent tried it on anything else other then my mark-II/tac solution and it is still quiet but not as quiet as the p-22


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Element. Have one and love it! :D

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What about the silencerco sparrow? To my ear it is just as quiet as the element.


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+1 to it depending on host and ammo. Some cans perform better on rifles, others on pistols, due to the different pressure levels. Mr. Titsworth has a huge review of .22 cans on various platforms at his site.

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What about the silencerco sparrow? To my ear it is just as quiet as the element.


Although not technically the quietest on either a pistol or a rifle, this is the one my trust buddy went with and I think it was an excellent decision. The unique design and takedown features made it totally worth it.

It's more than quiet enough (compares favorably to many of the most popular cans like the Outback II), and it will never get louder because cleaning it is so darned easy.


ETA: To the original poster, since you're looking for something to use on both a pistol and a rifle, you're gonna have to compromise. Some silencers do best on pistols, others on rifles. I seem to recall the Liberty Shoofly being really good on both.

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I love my Spectre which I shot on my p22 and 10/22. The Element and Spectre are probably the quietest.

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from my research, the can that had the highest ratings in both the p22 and 10/22 was the new prodigy, it wasnt the highest on both, but the one that was closest to the top in both the platforms

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I still say the TM ZXL. It has insane baffles. But the tacsol and all of the AAC cans are awesome. I love my Aviator. SRT makes a INSANE MKIi. Has to be heard to believe. Tac Innovations wet is nuts quiet and cheap. So many choices. If you have the funds buy a few and you will shoot them all. If I have learned anything you have to get a .22 can you can take apart. Gunk builds up like you can't imagine. Huge chunks of carbon even using plated ammo.


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thanks for all the replies, I already have a TAC-65 and I like it, but i would also like to pick up another .22 lr suppressor before this type of stuff isnt sold anymore. is the element really that much better than the TAC-65? I'm still debating on a Thomson Machine Integral 10-22 barrel.

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gunguy wrote:
I already have a TAC-65 and I like it ... is the element really that much better than the TAC-65?


On a pistol, heck yes. On a rifle, probably not.



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I'm still debating on a Thomson Machine Integral 10-22 barrel.


Integrals are, generally, very quiet. I'm taking a good look at TM's integral bolt action Savage .22

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Integrals are going to be the quietest from everything I've seen.

Between barrel porting, shorter barrels and lots of baffles, they simply work.

That's something I'd consider though, how important is it for you to transfer from firearm to firearm?

Also bolts are going to be the quietest, because of no action noise, how important is a semi-automatic action to you?

Lots of variables...


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What about the Liberty Kodiak? How does this rate? I am very interested in one.


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I've personally only fired about 4 different 22 cans on a 10/22. The quietest of those is my Liberty Shoofly.


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from my research, the can that had the highest ratings in both the p22 and 10/22 was the new prodigy, it wasnt the highest on both, but the one that was closest to the top in both the platforms


They say the Element is a tad quieter. The Kodiak and shoofly are also supposed to be VERY quiet too. Maybe the Kodiak has a new core and is getting the better db numbers.

I find the New Core Prodigy on a rifle quite impressive.. not bad on a p-22 either. The new core vs the old core is flat out amazing.

Now if we can only get our Evo-9's re-cored (I will pay AAC for the work) I would be REALLY happy.

Both the Element and New core Prodigy are darn quiet. Apparently Liberty has a core in the .22 can that might even top both of them. If his db numbers were right he has them beat.

Liberty is a top contender for the .22 market. Easy to clean, quiet. and super customer service.

Element
Kodiak
Shoofly
Prodigy

seem to be the top 4 All have individual qualities. All are very different all are TOP performers.

My Prodigy is stupid quiet with subsonic in my CZ bolt 16" barrel. Quieter than my single shot pellet rifle... and probably quieter than my bb gun. Bullet impact dwarfs the noise from the rifle. EVEN is louder when I shoot into soft moss. Which is 1/4 the noise of the dirt embankment or a rotten log... Mud, water or a rock is LOUD

On the pistols it's louder, but mostly it leads up so much faster the clean up is a bitch. Also in all but the P-22 reliability falls off VERY fast due to blow-back. I would love to know which of the 4 silencers has the LEAST blow-back/back pressure. THAT might be the deciding factor.. But how can we determine that.

It woudl be fairly subjective. Try all 4 with the same ammo in all my hosts to see which is the most reliable. Graphing the # of shots from each before reliability for each freshly cleaned firearm starts to fall off.

To me that would be a very important factor in making the choice between the 4... But who and how could we get some data like that?

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I wish someone would make a big fat nasty .22lr can that was like a foot long and 2 inches thick. i bet it'd be INSANE! it could be sealed and only require cleaning every 49 thousand rounds

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cdmillig wrote:
I wish someone would make a big fat nasty .22lr can that was like a foot long and 2 inches thick. i bet it'd be INSANE! it could be sealed and only require cleaning every 49 thousand rounds


The Thompson Machine SG is a foot long and 2 inches in diameter, actually. Plus, it can be taken apart for cleaning. Sure it's for 9mm, but I suppose you could still use it on a .22. You might actually be able to use wipes with it, to get the best .22 performance, but you'd have to ask the guys at TM if that's possible.

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kapkanimd wrote:
from my research, the can that had the highest ratings in both the p22 and 10/22 was the new prodigy, it wasnt the highest on both, but the one that was closest to the top in both the platforms


Yes, I was going to say the same thing. Prodigy.


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I've got a new 22 sparrow. I've got a little more than 2k rounds thru it. It's quiet on my 10/22, my walther p22 and my browning buckmark. I love it. And, it's extremely easy to clean, especially if you follow the instructions. To each his own. The sparrow is a good buy.


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JPratt06 wrote:
There is no "quietest" .22 silencer --- it depends on your host, ammo, etc.

What are you intending to put it on?


So....what is the "quietest" setup ... can, ammo, host? Looking for currently available off the shelf products.


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The quietest set up would be an integrally suppressed bolt action rifle.


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mp15t wrote:
The quietest set up would be an integrally suppressed bolt action rifle.



Yup.

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