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 Post subject: Liberty Kodiak TL on the meter. Best .22 can in History?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:20 pm 
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For those that follow my rants and reviews know that my love of the Kodiak has little to do with the fact that it is the quietest rimfire silencer I've ever shot..Its really the lack of blowback and ease of cleaning is the reason I love it..Well and it just looks plain neat too..Hell your stuck with them for life they may as well look good..

Dave took out the meter and measured all kinds of stuff..Some great footage with the Freedom can on a .308..Other stuff there as well if you want to look around..

Here's the one I care about..Its just an informal test..don't get your panites twisted about him metering..Yes yes you need 3 PHD's and aliens to do it correctly..It cracks me up though when he starts tossing brass at the ladder..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoodQhj1 ... tube_gdata

Maybe we should cut our Rugers a bit shorter..I'm gonna chronograph all that ammo in different length barrels for those wondering..Hopefully I'll get to that this weekend yet..Just waiting on some more guns..

Whats that? aside from the easiest to clean and take apart and best looking its also the quietest?? Nah..I'm usually wrong.. :P

I gota ask him to meter 5.7 and .22 hornet out of it yet..


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:25 pm 
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I look forward to watching this video when I get to my other job.

His video of his 308 can meter'd just as good as anyone elses 308 can. I was impressed.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:26 pm 
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Looked to me like his numbers on the 308 can blew away the others..Whats with the new avatar man?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:31 am 
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He should do the vids with the camera on the meter or split screen like Tits does it. As much as I admire Liberty, I'm having a hard time with the .22 being 112dB dry on the 3.5" pistol with CCI SV ammo.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:47 am 
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That sounds like alot of work to prove nothing..He sets that up and then it would be just something else..They didn't get the meter to prove numbers..Just to work with for themselves..

Just glad he took the time to do it..

I have one on the same gun so I don't doubt the numbers at all..It's actually quieter on the p-22..


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 Post subject: re: Kodiak
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:43 am 
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Good stuff! I put a few of his cans on order...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:20 am 
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There wasn't much shot-to-shot variation on either the .22 or the .308, and his unsuppressed numbers were about 3-4 dB lower than John's. I don't doubt Dave's integrity, but I wonder if his set-up is MIL-STD.

Did he measure the 1 meter from the muzzle to the meter, or from the muzzle to the microphone? A little bit of distance can make a big difference.

In any event, both silencers seem excellent! I really like the smaller manufacturers like Liberty and Thompson Machine :D

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JPratt06 wrote:
I really like the smaller manufacturers like Liberty and Thompson Machine :D


I agree the innovation from DTA, Liberty, and Thompson is amazing.

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David's work is awesome. I believe my rework is quieter but the can was bigger to start with. What amazes me about his stuff is that there is no first round pop to speak of. I'm headed up to Trenton to check out his .308 can. Those are very impressive numbers.

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I don't doubt David's numbers. He had good reproducibility.

But to help ease any concerns, I'll be meeting with him shortly and Metering all his products and releasing the data on NFAtalk.org.

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I wanna come to!!!!! My dealer just got to go down there for a visit..He picked me up some shirts and took some pics..Lucky basterd got to play with some toys too..

Thats my Disneyland..Gonna try and make it there this summer.. :P


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:16 am 
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so, titsworth's info is off by that much? :?:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:00 am 
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Titsworth did the Stainless version not the Titanium one..The Titanium version is quieter because David took another ounce of steel out of the core to lighten it..
He also just told me the meter batteries were low..He swapped them out and its metering at 114 again..That seems to make more sense.. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:01 am 
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How much is the Kodiak TL going for? Not the MSRP, but how much are people paying for it?


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I paid msrp plus shipping to my dealer plus the transfer..Probably best to find a dealer that can work with you..Yep most expensive silencer I own..Though my steel version now that my dealer carries there stuff is 450..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:07 pm 
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Impressive numbers. For some amusing results, try Youtubes new closed caption transcription with that video.

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Wonder why none of mine have close captioning..I feel bad for the people that have to use that feature...not even close..


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Is there any difference in sound between the SS and the Ti? I would not imagine there is. I am seriously considering the Kodiak.


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The Titanium version is quieter..its also 3 ounces less..The reason it is quieter is because over an ounce was shaved off the baffles to reduce weight..
Now the Titanium tube is thin..But you can actually jump on it..its that strong..Also the neat thing about both is neither have any threads in the tube to damage..the core threads to itself..(endcap into core)
The Titanium does not have the 5.7 or Hornet rating yet..But I think it should real soon..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:54 pm 
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tctlrld wrote:
Impressive numbers. For some amusing results, try Youtubes new closed caption transcription with that video.

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That is hilarious!!!! That has to be the funniest thing I have seen in a lonnnnng time!!! :)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:56 pm 
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Quick note. The TL has a redesigned baffle design based on the regular Kodiak as well as thinner baffles. Chondo will get to see that once the paperwork clears going to his dealer. I needed to bring that up as I dont think he was totally informed on that point when we talked on the phone.

thanks for all the comments guys, we are trying to bring you the best products and services that we can. We never stop trying to make them better!!!

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Impressive.


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Redesigned..Ahh..Wasn't sure how just making them thinner would change that much..That makes alot more sense..Well if the ATF would hurry up then I can change my avatar and use both cores.. :P Yep I have issues..


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now that was funny (close captions)


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 Post subject: re: Liberty Cans
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:34 pm 
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I have some on order...
They loaned me some at Knob Creek...David is great to work with...good people...
They have also been nice enough to help sponsor our class III dealer directory classIIIdealers.com

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