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 Post subject: Suppressed 30/30
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:57 pm 
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Has anyone threaded and attached a .30 caliber suppressor to a 30/30?

Are there any issues with subsonic rounds with this cartridge?

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I've never seen it done but that would be sweet! I would like to see it done myself!


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:20 pm 
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Huh,

That would be cool. I have an old lever .30/.30 just sitting around, too. Would have to have a little barrel extension made for mine, the mag and barrel are the same length. Hmmmm....


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:34 pm 
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Now you're talking.

I've read online about people doing it and about subsonic loads, but I haven't seen, heard (or not heard) it in person.

I have an old Marlin 30-30 with a 3/4 length mag tube that is screaming at me to get a .30 cal can. It's not the only one in my safe that's taunting me about my lack of a silencer in that caliber.

I'd imagine that you could load it up with Trailboss and get subs no problem.


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I have on a Winchester 94 Antique edition. I had the mag tube cut back and the barrel threaded for my Grand Father's Maxim .30 cal. suppressor.
He had a factory model 94 that he sold to help pay for a car back during the Depression.
It shoots nicely and is as quiet as a Bolt gun in .30.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:12 pm 
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I threaded a 30/30 Contender and with 6 grains of unique it was a blast...didnt run over the chrono but stable (150's) and subsonic...through an AWC Thundertrap


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I've always felt like it would be an awesome combination but I was unsure about threading issues and twist rates, etc.

They can be set up scout style, fast rate of fire, they shoot big ole round nose slugs, etc.


There has to be some issues. Anybody know of any?

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As long as you use bullets that are light /short enough for the twist,,why not
Just check your load as close to the muzzle as possible
Bullets can wobble at the exit ,only to calm down further away
Its the wobbling just in front of the muzzle that f,,,up your can
The wobbling further away is what ruins you accuracy


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I have a Marlin 30-30 that Tornado Tech threaded and I shoo it with my 7.62SD. It is cool I figured I needed it to go with my Nagant. :lol:
I was thinking about loading some subsonic 30-30 with tracers ,thought that would be cool, but them pointy bullets in a mag tube kinda scared me.
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Remington use to offer their 788 bolt action in 30-30 Win. I've re barreled a few into 7-30 Waters (30-30 necked down to 7mm/.284".
A long and fine threaded barrel shank that needed a bit of a tapper that was a b it of a pain.
This was an econo gun with a removable box mag. Aot of gun for the money.

I think Savage sold a bolt action rotary mag 30-30 as well.

These would be better hosts in 30-30 Win, IMHO.


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Cool. I'm looking for all the possible uses I can find for a can. That's one combination that I hadn't seen anything on but I thought it would be cool. Thanks for the input.

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woodstove wrote:
I think Savage sold a bolt action rotary mag 30-30 as well.


It's not a rotary, but a single column. Savage sold it as the Model 340, Stevens 325, Springfield 840. Gobs of them all over the internet ($250 to $400+ price range) and Numrich has most of the parts on hand. Great corn crib/tractor guns! :lol:

ETA: Also, the barrels are attached with a barrel nut just like the Model 10/110! Though it's small in diameter than the 10/110.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:52 am 
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I have on a Winchester 94 Antique edition. I had the mag tube cut back and the barrel threaded for my Grand Father's Maxim .30 cal. suppressor.
He had a factory model 94 that he sold to help pay for a car back during the Depression.
It shoots nicely and is as quiet as a Bolt gun in .30.


Please post a picture I would love to see that rifle!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:51 pm 
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I like the idea of a suppressed .30-30. Should be fun in super and subsonic mode.

Here's a Contender with 16 1/4 inch barrel and my cyclone. I'm using 200 grain SMKs and trailboss. Haven't shot for groups yet, but bullets are stable. The Contender has a 1/10 twist. It balances great with the suppressor. It's a little butt heavy and short witout it. Iron sights work over the suppressor, but I put a red dot type sight on it.
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This is getting the threaded next. Won't be able to use the pointed SMKs in it! :shock:
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:57 pm 
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Yes you can, 1 in the tube, one in the chamber. Remember .30-30 Ackley Improved.

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Very good point smalldog!


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Very good point smalldog! Not sure how they would feed, but I'll find out.


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twzadms wrote:
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I have on a Winchester 94 Antique edition. I had the mag tube cut back and the barrel threaded for my Grand Father's Maxim .30 cal. suppressor.
He had a factory model 94 that he sold to help pay for a car back during the Depression.
It shoots nicely and is as quiet as a Bolt gun in .30.


Please post a picture I would love to see that rifle!

I'll take a pic of it and post it next time I get it outta the safe.

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 Post subject: It's not a rotary, but a single column
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I stand corrected. Braindead at work

Again


thanks Jrieinke


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:55 pm 
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jack burton wrote:
I like the idea of a suppressed .30-30. Should be fun in super and subsonic mode.

Here's a Contender with 16 1/4 inch barrel and my cyclone. I'm using 200 grain SMKs and trailboss. Haven't shot for groups yet, but bullets are stable. The Contender has a 1/10 twist. It balances great with the suppressor. It's a little butt heavy and short witout it. Iron sights work over the suppressor, but I put a red dot type sight on it.
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This is getting the threaded next. Won't be able to use the pointed SMKs in it! :shock:
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I have the exact same contender with 16" 30-30 barrel. I tried 200 grain Nosler partition spitzer flat base bullets but couldn't get enough Trail Boss into the case for 1000 fps. I dropped to 180's with 10.3 Trail Boss for about 1050 fps. How much TB are you using with the 200 grain bullets?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:46 pm 
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I'm not with my load data, but somewhere around 11.1 grains. I haven't had a chance to chronograph it. Don't load that because this is all from memory YMMV yada yada yada :)


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Very cool. Have you considered any of that LeveRevolution ammo?

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I have a friend that has used them. He likes them. I just don't have a need for a fast long range loading like those bullets would allow you to have. If I did, I'd probably give them a hard look and seriously think about an AI chamber.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:46 pm 
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Would the action hold up under full power supers with a suppressor attached? I assume the suppressor adds to the pressure. My plan is to shoot loads that are a little reduced though. Nothing full house, but would like to run factory ammo through it. I hear the 340/840 don't have the strongest of actions. Like one locking lug? Not sure what that means.
Thoughts?

jreinke wrote:
woodstove wrote:
I think Savage sold a bolt action rotary mag 30-30 as well.


It's not a rotary, but a single column. Savage sold it as the Model 340, Stevens 325, Springfield 840. Gobs of them all over the internet ($250 to $400+ price range) and Numrich has most of the parts on hand. Great corn crib/tractor guns! :lol:

ETA: Also, the barrels are attached with a barrel nut just like the Model 10/110! Though it's small in diameter than the 10/110.


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